i lived in paris for a bit. i went to spain. i went to italy, i went to ger nanny. i sort of did a lot of europe and read a lot of books. mostly about feminism. >> rose: really? >> yeah. >> rose: why, just understanding where women were. >> yeah. >> rose: today. >> yeah, kind of. a lot of that. >> rose: but did you develop a greater appreciation of sort of where women are, the empowerment of women, you know -- >> i also went, i think there is a lot of work to be done but yeah, absolutely. i did a lot of that but i think it was hugely i left school at 16 so i don't have -- a college. >> rose: you were a goofy kid. >> i was a goofy kid, i was that on occasion. >> rose: you were never a goofy kid. >> no. so i felt like i wanted to sort of take a year out and read, really, and just-- it was fun. >> rose: so i came out of that and started working again. >> rose: how do you know when you're ready to get back on the train? >> a friend of mine who is a director called-- and said come on, come and do this fill well me. and that was it. >> that was it. >> rose: but if he call